5. Leslie Van Houten is an example of a woman who probably will never see the light of day because of her high profile status. http://www.glamour.com/story/i-found-out-my-mother-was-a-killer-the-rebecca-babcock-story. She unwillingly followed the cops in spite of being in pain and not wanting to leave the premises. Ive been trying to decipher her handwriting on the couple of pages she wrote to her daughter (misquoted on here somewhere is a highlighted If you love your little boy, youll take him far away from here- why is this being taken as a threat and not a warning?!). Whenever your shoot a gun that many times and that close to the victims, theres going to be blood and powder residues. It turned out to be a mistake because he was married to a County Circuit Court Judge who would become a colleague of Foote and he had no intention of defending Diane vigorously. Blood spatter is not an exact science, and is interpreted differently by experts. She was in solitary confinement for years and even escaped from prison once but was recaptured. At what point during these meetings did she start calling him Dad? So the prosecutor adopted the kids? Seems like she was her worst enemy. She should of been sentenced to death. Hey Jace, I was not going to post your insulting comments but I decided to let the last sentence fly so that I could answer it. The prescribed normal dosage for a full grown man is 30 milligrams per day. There are many cases where investigators jump to conclusions either because in their gut they think they know or pressure to make an arrestand i guess with all the attention this case got they gave their gut and the public what they wanted. Just saw the video of Dianes parole hearing. 1) Gunshot residue/blood splatter. Wednesday, March 1, 2023: Today on General Hospital, Obrecht is furious with both Liz and Scott, Finn offers to stand by Liz, and Sonny and Dex bond over a meal. The State produced a witness (Ms. Patterson) to testify that Diane Downs entered the hospital bathroom, left the door open, and ran water in the sink (Appendix 87, page 476). You said that the absence of both prove she couldnt have been to shooter and you claim it takes real scrubbing to remove GSR. The circumstances surrounding the case were not enough to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. I went on ebay and ordered multiple stuff from the 80s, news footage, just to hear what she sounded like, because of all the talk in the book about her demeanor. A. If you had commented on one of the elements contained in the blog, it might have been enlightening. It sounds pretty fair to me. (Yes in the 1980s a ten yr like myself was not as mature as say todays 10 yr olds. As a rule, any child under the age of ten prompts counsel to question the competence of any testimony that child might give. Re Diane Downs I invite reading Synopsis quite similar to above: OREGONs Juridical Small Sacrifices In addition, the children were suffering life-changing physical and mental trauma, which would take years to heal. Wasnt he the stranger? She complained about it, but that does not mean she did not suffer for her kids. But he overestimated the kind of people that would go along with this soap opera. The Cinemaholic reports that Steve was often known for being immature and irresponsible, something that didn't see their rekindled relationship get off to the best start. Why is there virtually no info on him? Diane Downs was one of the most infamous murderers of the 1980s; the emotionally flat blonde was convicted of shooting her three children, killing one of them, along a roadway in Springfield,. I accept that it is sometimes necessary but I believe in rehabilitation. Ive not seen the movie or read the book. I worked for county government child welfare for a decade. Is. The cops admitted that they never investigated the tips about a bushy haired stranger. Speculative. We already know that. I removed the dumb and crass part of your comment. You were not there and one thing I have learned about high profile cases, is that you cannot always believe what the media, biased detectives and Ann Rule have to say. Three weeks after the crime, Judge Foote from family courts, removed Danny and Christie from the care of Diane Downs and her family. A steel plate had to be attached and some lead fragments were removed. I agree that the phone call from Angel was totally inappropriate. Whats next? You indicated you were not going to get a divorce? This was the prosecution and conviction of (Elizabeth) Diane Downs who has now been incarcerated for too many years in one of Californias (overcrowded) State prisons. To listen to Christies taped conversation, click below. We cant. She keeps her emotions under tight control, presenting only socially acceptable feelings and burying other contradictory feelings.. Growing up, Diane had felt like an outsider and kids had been cruel towards her because of her real or imagined ugly duckling looks and demeanor. They did not want reunification to keep their verdict intact. The bio family should have been given the same opportunity to see the kids and demonstrate their ability to be the guardians. They were in a difficult situation becausewithout evidence, they could notcharge her for the crime. The GSR? But you sure did comment like a true asshole, huh? Again thats opinion, and neither balanced nor objective. How about dads side of the family? To this day, his record is mixed; his law license was suspended for 6 months in 2011, and there was also talk of a suspension in 2015. If you read the blog, you will see examples of his lack of dedication. As for how to answer this question,,, seems like he is assuming guilt and because of this my parents or me or my brothers and sister, our uncles and aunts were not considered because of an unproven allegation Does he truly believe this is ok??? She had one arm totally out of commission. They were not truth seekers and enjoyed a nice burning at the stake instead. She was no mother of the year and in the car when the kids got shot. Pros. Oh 1 more thing I see a lot of comments on pro Diane web sights that say well she drove them to the hospital. Instead of shooting the little kids, why didnt the carjacker/killer (CK) simply shoot DD dead and take her car? Diane described the stranger that shot them on the road and a police artist came up with a sketch. she chose to stay with Manson and his misfits. They were treated very badly in this matter. Diane wanted to wait for her daughter to feel better, be accompanied by an expert and have the meetings taped? Contemporary family finding principles argue that a child is best nurtured by parents, then immediate family members, extended family members, spiritual family (Godparents), close friends, etc. I lived in Eugene, Oregon for years. Even if they say that she did not get involved in rehabilitation programs, she did participate, but obviously did not admit to killing her daughter and injuring the others. They rarely get a break. They both fainted when they saw their dead child, but it did not count. In the nurses notes, she is described as in shock and unable to grasp the situation. Her arm was severely damaged, so shattered that she needed a graft from a hip bone. Substituting reasonable inference and evidence for tarot cards? No matter how horrible people think she is. What is known for a fact, is, Prosecutor Fred Hugi took physical custody of Christie and Danny shortly after Christies confessions to her school mates, and he officially adopted them in the summer of 1986. Right after the shooting, little Danny would ask the nurses, , Even Ann Rule in her book, keeps mentioning that, Every time, she said she did not know, they told her to think again and made suggestions. In fact, Diane and her lawyer wanted Christie to be able to heal before being questioned and to be accompanied and taped during the sessions. Maybe she didnt want to admit she was there for drugs, but you need a really tiny brain to worry about that in such a situation. Even if the nurses notes indicated countless times that the children asked for their mother and enjoyed her visits, they cut them off from the only family they knew and loved; supposedly for their own protection. The fact that the judge who presided over the child welfare case and the criminal case was the same individual is absolutely a conflict of interest. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. When I hear some people say that they would have liked to smack that smirk off Dianes face when she interacted with the cops or the media, I sayreadthis to understand accounts of people laughing at the wrong time and how it is related to their personality disorder. I try to bring out the details that were ignored because Down was so unpopular: this blog is clearly one sided. The gun is Def a big issue, the style of gun, whether it belonged to him or her, she Def had access to itthe child drew a picture of it, having large similarity to that gunbut it did always baffle me how she could find such a great hide for it in such a short period of time. The goal is always to keep family ties intact. The next morning Diane appeared in the courtroom with a police report written by Detective Pond a year earlier, in which Ms. Patterson was sure Diane had gone nowhere near the bathroom the night of the shooting (Appendix 62). The detective said to leave that up to the police. They lied about the ballistics. Her persona allowed them to build this ironclad narrative when in fact, it was far from definite. Click to listen to podcast explaining the gun test, Dianes mental condition and the lack of forensic evidence. Imagine knowing that your adoptive dad was responsible for putting your natural mom in the slammer? To have separated Christie from her brother and the rest of the family to be able to get her mom was unconscionable. Not an easy situation for him as I would imagine. The inconsistencies and obvious lack of evidence in this case should have called for a wider investigation instead of solely focusing on their prime suspect. Robert and Diane even decided toget matching rose tattoos, but as soon as the ink on her tattoo was dry, he refused to get his done. Diane Frederickson was born August 7, 1955 in Phoenix, Arizona. I never found a photo of James C. Jagger online. I will post it when I get it. To have separated Christie from her brother and the rest of the family to be able to get her mom was unconscionable. And even when confronted by the wrongful practices used at trial to get her convicted, are ok with her being locked up for life. She states, I did not shoot my children and I cant say I did. I am posting Jamesanswer: Yes the allegations were said and you cannot take back what was saideven if retracted The definition of deviant sociopath does not even exist in the DSM-HI, which is the official psychiatric diagnostic manual. The media keeps talking about several escapes, but there was only one. Children imitate their parents every move. Jump through the States hoops, or find a noose around your neck. Lets not forget that she was presumed to have fired a gun 6 times at close range within the confines of a small car. No. Lise lasalle you mention THIS When she (Diane) resisted, he shot her kids and struggled with her. Rule sued the Seattle Weekly after they published the article titled Ann Rules Sloppy Storytelling, but she lost and had to make restitution. Every single one. Apparently drug mafia wanted to punish her for messing her nose in forbidden places, not because she was getting any real business in that but simply because she had one of the poorest judgements a person can have. 2.Diane herself has stated that the shooter was outside the car and shot THROUGH the window, no blood spatter. You seem to forget that even a few jurors started by voting not guilty on some of the charges. Its more boring to tell the truth and the readers might not have flocked to read a fair story without no real heroes and villains. This does not make her innocent. She was still trying to extricate herself from a bad relationship with Steve Downs and was in no hurry to repeat the mistake. The fact that the Hugis did so successfully is arguably proof of this. The only reason they kept her in prison even if she had all the right documentation and support, is because she is high profile. I remember when Diane shot her kids and there are some facts Id like to correct from your blog. Maybe because of her notoriety and the victims were children. They were traumatized and needed familiar faces to feel safe. I like your approach. Rule defended her right to earn a living and to tell her story. She could have stayed on the side of the road. Wasnt it speculative on their part? They said so and were told to go back to deliberate. Not in this case. My guess is the grandparents were so overwhelmed with Dianes case that they let the system take care of the kids at first. But my beef is with the interference by the media, TV shows and Ann Rule. Diane nowhad the title ofdangerous offender. No matter how much Ive read, or how many of her constant at the time interviews I watch on YouTube, the things that come from her brain to her mouth never cease to amaze me. At the very least, she should have been released by now. The diagnosis of the psychiatrist for the state is also clearly documented. It will not make me popular, but I dont mind. No excuse there. You are telling me to take my smugness elsewhere because it is tiresome. Shes guilty. Tis why at 10 years old I was hearing about this case in Ohio, and family members talked about it around me.it hit with great force that way. Diane doesnt believe Rebecca is her daughter, rather a media puppet ran by Rule. At the time Diane had told police that a stranger attempted to carjack her and shot the kids, and that's what her ex husband was told, too. CK allowed DD to drive away despite the fact she could identify him and he had a gun? The children should have been receiving therapy throughout. Her other daughter and son were severely injured. Only in Hollywood and in Ann Rules books, would you find such fantasy. The blog I read is all about the improprieties and flat out misconduct in Dianes trial (and the way Ann Rule profited off of it with fiction). You cant possibly shake off all the gun powder residue and avoid all the blood. He asked her for the car keys and she pretended to throw them away to distract him. Most people described Dianes injury as minor or superficial but in reality, it was a very serious injury. Diane was just 18 years old but determined to get married. I see that Downs had a parole hearing in late 2020 but I cant see the outcome. Im from Australia and have recollections of this case. Plus, you do not let a newly appointed judge to criminal cases, preside over a high profile murder case when he has no experience whatsoever and has already prejudged the defendant dangerous to her children. It was such a high profile case and she was found guilty by the media and the court so people are afraid to touch this one. I am all for reviewing facts and getting a decision overturned in cases of corrupt decisions, and many people are on your side and find these cases totally worth their time. But you would know that if you had read the blog or info about the case. But you are right to say that it is my site. While Rules book is biased, it was a look into the view of those who wanted justice for those children, wether you agree w/ their conclusion or not, that was their goal. No gun, no blood or gun residue on her and if she shot them, these elements should have been there. This reminds me of what a jail counselor named Rachel Roth said at the trial of Debra Milke Its my opinion that this young woman has been judged in a way that signifies something to do with how we view women in our society. Its tiresome. It is because she is a high profile person. I saw that same face in Diane Downs. I changed the sites email recently to thetroublewithjustice@hotmail.com She has done her time in prison and I hope that she gets the chance to get out and spend time with her mother and siblings. Why was no one in the family given the right to adopt them. But why was the judge in family court hopping over to criminal court? Jeff, you mention being harsh as if there was a justification for it. In 1979, headstrong Diane gave birth to Danny who was not Stevens biological son because he had no desire to be a father again. Hysteria. I watched the paroles hearing in 08, was lucky to find it, it was streamed live at the timemy sister, who is a whiz with computers, found it for me. Spending 35 years incarcerated with time in isolation and often as a target is not going to improve mental health. Probably a 911 button. So they did everything in their power to slant the media and the public in their favor. I encourage you to read all the facts before being so sure that she was guilty or that she acted alone. Ruger #14-76187; described as the gun used by Diane and belonging to Steve Downs, was not the murder weapon. You didnt know that?? Anyways, I was 10 years old when this happened, I stayed with my aunt and uncle a lot in those years, in which they watched A LOT of nightly news programs.lol most of it was like white noise to me, as I would play with my barbies on their living room floorbut I do remember this story. Diane did not get a fair trial. By many accounts, her children adored her. Yes, dad relinquished his rights but he knew that they loved their grandparents and had allowed Diane to take them for a visit without telling the authorities. The man you have listed as Fred Hugi is actually Dianes attorney Jim Jagger. A very reasonable request that was rejected. They believed the testimony of her former boyfriends who were far from stellar individuals. This same witness corroborated that Diane did not stop to do something suspicious or dispose of the gun. CK was willing to take, or attempt to take, the lives of 4 people in order to steal their car. She did diagnose her as suffering from cyclothymic disorder and treated her accordingly. You mention that her attorney should have raised objections. That didnt seem right so we wrote a letter to Mr Hugi with a request for visitation rights. Ms. Downs makes every effort to avoid emotional stimuli in order to reduce the demands made on her. Lockdowns in . This case had many similarities to the Alice Crimminsstory. None of this is EVIDENCE of anything in regard to the murder trial, and not once did I read that it was. Plus, Diane could have never cleaned her clothes and her hair to remove blood and gun powder. That testimony was left unchallenged by Mr. Jagger. No other shooter involved in her case. answer the question why didn't steve downs get custody, which will help you get the most accurate answer. What this is evidence of is one more piece of the overwhelming amount of bias that was involved from the start of the case. They should have taken their timeto investigatethis case thoroughly and without prejudice. I am not sure. She has been denied parole 2x and is up again in 2020. That disinformation was alleged by Mr. Hugi the third day into Jim Jaggers defense and it was never objected to by Mr. Jagger . Steven and Diane married on November 13, 1973. It kinda scared me, the thought that mommy could shoot me, like this mommy did. In 1991, David Brewer, a juror who deliberated Dianes fate in her 1984 trial, came forward to say he and another juror had decided to acquit Downs by the close of the States presentation. You are not the only one who thinks she is guilty and I know that getting their man at all cost is a popular mantra, but I disagree. Not exclusively a USA trait, this happens also in many countries, but in a technologically advanced superpower like USA this attitude is more shocking, and maybe also more worldwide spread. The woman shot her children. I personally disagree with that practice but it is common. Blood spatter is not an exact science, and is interpreted differently by experts. How do you expect the daughter to have any fair understanding of the situation or any decent contact with Dianes family when the people who have been calling her mother a murderer and a monster are dragging her in the media spotlight in the hope of writing another book or getting a new scoop, but all one sided. I am a true crime junkie. A fair trial is a right in this country, not a judicial suggestion. I dont know that it could get worse than writing an asinine comment on a restorative justice website that states that only respectful and constructive comments will be posted. Did u learn nothing?? why didn't steve downs get custody. And if he really was attached to them and wanted to offer them a permanent home, it means he was unfit to be the prosecutor in this case. It could have been very different at almost any other time or with any other attorneys or juries too. Maybe someone needs to read Part two in Dr. Billings in-depth review of the Diane Downs Murder Case in Oregon. I do not discuss her guilt or innocence because this is not what the blog is about, but I personally hope she is released one day. Most were married because Diane had no desire to remarry. It was kind of interesting to hear Mossimo Giannullis lawyer pleading to have his client sent home or put in general population because his mental health suffered drastically in solitary confinement because of covid after 56 consecutive days in solitary. Not giving you free reign here. I write about cases where due process is in question and important aspects were ignored or twisted. Up. I wanted to ask you something on this case. Anne Rule might have inflamed the case with her book Small Sacrifices and her theory of the crime, but in reality, the case of Diane Downs was no small sacrifice. Not speculative? Same with her brother. It would not benefit you, my children, or society for me to perpetuate that lie. Steve Downs had allegedly stolen this gun from a friend named Billy Proctor, but after it was found and the ballistics did not match, Bill suddenly remembered keeping it only for a day before exchanging it for another Ruger automatic at a gun show in Mesa; which now meant that the gun that Diane allegedly used to shoot herself and the children, was still apparently nowhere to be found. So obviously, she was the prime suspect. Right?? Because Foote was already familiar with the case, the presiding judge assigned him the murder trial after Downs was charged with the shootings. My question is: why is she still locked up? In high school, she met handsome Steven Downs who saw her for the great beauty she had become. Mind: Wrongful convicted. The fact that the children were in no way protected by Child Protection Services is undeniable. May be the guy who says he did it. After graduation, Steven joined the Navy and Diane was sent to Pacific Coast Baptist Bible College where she failed miserably at remaining pure and chaste, not unlike most girls of her generation who rejected their strict religious upbringing. Her father passed away in October 2017 after having fought relentlessly for her release. If she was the shooter, it had to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. I will change it. I am a strong believer that pregnancy can do serious harm to some women. 3. She followed all the correct Parole Boardprocedures for two years with no hearing. She wrote to the governor several times after being dismissed coldly by Hugi and the system. In the moment of who shot youmy momhave a hard time believing that could be coached. Also, I agree he does look a little like the actor who played Fred Hugi but I think it might be a coincidence. Sheriffs Deputy Roy Pond admitted in court that he had already concluded that Diane was guilty and stopped following leads on the orders of his sergeantthree weeks after the shooting. Dianes father tried to hire Melvin Belli, but the judge refused to give him some time to prepare and come back to the US. How asinine. I am not one sided. Why doesnt the innocent project get involved with her case. She signed an affidavit to that effect and wanted the jury informed of it but it was never done. This is a conflict of interest. That same gun turned up at a police raid years later in Perris, California, and it did not match the ballistics from the shooting site. That her child was basically forced to admit that she saw her mom shoot them? And once again, considering that she was diagnosed as bipolar, did not help her cause. Doesnt the innocent project get involved with her case to slant the media keeps talking about escapes... 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