Obviously, the increased velocity will impact terminal ballistic performance. Just ask yourself one question. Plus, law enforcement, judges, and the average person usually see revolvers as less threatening than a high capacity auto-loader. Most shootouts are long range. .308. The same gap between the 9mm vs 45 still exists. So, get training. With all calibers, try to match your bullet to your purpose. This will eliminate the threat on fewer rounds. If the bullet is traveling slowly, it will generally drop sooner, like the tossed ball; if it is hurled with speed, like the fastball, it will maintain a straight trajectory. I carry a Shield or a Glock 26. I expect our understanding of how bullets cause damage will evolve as well. Well written, and no trash talking, rare in the gun world. and 45LC with one shot kills, both head shots. You may need to spray again so a larger can is a better bet if you can afford it. The object then becomes to stop your adversary from firing bullets at you. A variation of the _gat cookie set by Google Analytics and Google Tag Manager to allow website owners to track visitor behaviour and measure site performance. The 9mms lower cost and recoil make it an even more attractive solution for effective self-defense. Locally we are seeing a lot of police involved shootings using 9mm, and they empty the clip almost every time. I am pretty much in agreement with the author, GET BOTH! Because when you are confronted in your living room, at a distance of 10-15 feet, you have to drop him before he can fire or you are going to get hit. We are now restricted to 10 or less rounds in the mag here in Washington State. The 9mm on a per round damage basis is NOT as effective as a 45. Well it will make holes in bad guy/rabbid dog I am confident that I can stop attack with .22LR cause I can shoot 8 rounds in about 3 secconds center body mass, palm size group. Abstract It also has a wide selection of ammunition types. 1350+ FPS in my 5 inch barrel Colt Gold Cup. https://guninstructor.net/Strasborg_Tests.pdf Spray and pray LOL. While not typically considered a hunting round by any means, the 9mm is effective for varmints and even deer hunting with a suitable bullet. purchase helps support my work in bringing you more awesome gun and gear articles. That is literally the definition of subsonic : below a certain speed ( the speed of sound). Gun laws are different in different states. Hi Matthew. Your "facts" are only indisputable for you, since you clearly lack experience or any real world outcomes. The entrance and exit wound will be bigger (with a good hollow point). Velocity. e.g. However, how about the hollow point bullets that's suppose to stop and explode once they enter the body.Is that a myth or not? Underwood ammo shows muzzle energy of 600-725 range for the 10mm and 1074-1125+ for 41. Hopefully he ll leave or be disoriented so you can leave in a safe direction. Kinetic energy. If you live in an apartment, or even a neighborhood, there's no way to know what's behind your target. Glocks are the most widely used, and are certainly good enough for almost all applications. Some are strict, some are not. So you can literally grab, draw, aim and shoot. The velocities displayed are an average taken from six readings. He wrote: The FBI and many police departments are going back to the 9mm for one reason and one reason only its easier to qualify with a 9mm. I am purest. I would like to add that the FBI test comparisons that are referred to are only half the test. If I did, I would either aviod the area or take a rifle. Not ever. Equipped with a suppressor, they make ideal home defense weapons and they are less likely to over-penetrate. The 1911 has a 3.3" barrel and is also small. If either 5.56 x 45 or 7.62 x 51 are using hollow points or soft points the damage will be greater. Time matters. So much quicker to re-aim, quicker to re-fire and hence more accurate. I've finally finished up college and paid off my loans, and I'm ready to get back to the range at least weekly to improve my accuracy now that my budget allows. I have 9mm carry weapons, but I'm thinking of doing the home defense thing the way you described! Totally agree the new technology of the self defense bullets puts the 9mm in the same class as the 45acp, but I still prefer the 45acp but I carry the 9. The 9mm had a very distinct and predictable step in every load tested. I LIKE them all. I have to say I like them all from 22 to 500 Smith. In fact, if one conducts these tests, one finds that there is nothing that can be observed which supports the assertion that the faster one drives non-expanding solids the deeper they penetrate.Despite all the impressive "science" deployed to reinforce the assertion that higher speed projectiles are more capable of inflicting the deep penetration and impact-effect required to reliably anchor heavy game, one finds that these assertions simply do not withstand common sense, repeatable penetration testing. The following data is sourced from Ballistics by the Inch. So .45 is the guarantee to punch big holes, with 9 you have to have the right conditions. ". During the EVAC of Vietnam, one VC was dusted with a .45 to the shoulder and he was DRTdead right there. I got rid of my .45 Auto carbine because I found it less effective beyond about 60 yards. As the most popular handgun cartridge, 9mm ammo is available with every conceivable type of projectile including frangible, shot, rubber, and blank. I like the Bodyguard, unlike a lot of people. Physics works whether you're a criminal or a descent citizen. This is meant to give a clear and uncluttered picture to the consumer or end user in regard to what is currently available off the shelf. 5 Rounds of Hell. I'd prefer to hit with a slow moving baseball than a faster golf ball . If so, another one which should lead to enough blood pressure drop to lose consciousness. OTOH their .45 testing showed a much higher max muzzle energy with a number of rounds considerably over 600 ft lb, and had far more rounds (23 rounds) coming in over 500 ft lb. that is much easier to deal with. Maybe target practice? If you look up the Buckeye Firearms Association article comparing calibers, 9mm fails to incapacitate 13% of the time while .45 ACP fails to incapacitate 14%. (Technically, the bullet is fastest at the instant the explosion occurs and the bullet is expelled from the cartridge.). We measured the velocity for all 40 rounds using a Competition Dynamics Prochrono chronograph placed 10 feet away from the muzzle. I have no idea how this compares with the 9mm. like the Glock G21 and the Sig Sauer P220, the .45 ACP has always been one of the most reliable calibers on the market. But if the FBI and cops have reverted to 9mm, I'm comfortable with it too. When you said buy both at the end I was thinking .45 for carry and 9mm for backup. I've never been in a gunfight, but I have been terrified out of my mind once, many years ago, when someone did come after me with a gun, and I couldn't get my knees to stop shaking. The 9x19mm allows you to make more holes, from a standard pistol, than a .45 caliber pistol [albeit only 2-4 more rounds in the 9mm]. Good evening! The majority of U.S. police departments use 9mm. So the only real advantage 45 has is being inherently subsonic. This is a valuable consideration to those who want one load across the board for their carry gun and duty rig. I shoot the 1911 platform better than any semi auto or revolver Ive ever shot. Engagements where distance and volume of fire are important, 9mm has the advantage. the CarryGun's G2 bullet weighs 135 grains so that it will reach optimal velocity out . They are often shooting at moving targets who may be taking cover and at the same time the officers are trying to take cover and not get shot themselves (this isn't range shooting). However, theres always something to be said for having really big bullets ready to deal with really big problems. 12 RD mags, and 15 RD mags that dont take away from the beauty of the gun. For self defense close or far away. Be armed and have the gun where you can access it (LOADED) quickly. ( Look it up) I'm a person who lives in a rural area, no longer military and not a cop. I solved the argument of the 9mm vs the 45acp I have a 10mm and it's the best of both worlds, I am a Competition shooter I have shock sigsauer 9 mm Very unimpressed first of all Sigg Sire that I have the frame is bent . Over penetration should not be an issue. If you're hiking with bears, I presume they would protect you. I thought this was going to get way uglier in the comments. Walk away Glock 43 9mm is my every day carry, IWB. Its the gun I run classes with and is setup on my battle/SHTF rig. 250 plus opinions here and counting but for once I'd say they're not like A holeseveryone has one yet none stink. 9mm: FMJ (Military Classic) 115: 389: 1234: 9mm: FMJ: 115: 338: 1150 . Photographs and table, Territories Financial Support Center (TFSC), Tribal Financial Management Center (TFMC). Not true at all. Thanks for bringing our gun culture forward Cody! Both rounds are more than enough to put a guy down. In most cases, the larger the bullet you have, the slower the velocity. Tracy. Not always which round is bigger, faster, more powerful!!!! What I am saying is 9mm is a better round in all the metrics that matter. With a .45 you can hit him anywhere, even in the arm or shoulder, and you're going to knock him down. Energy at the target, which is considered critical to terminal performance, is enhanced when a bullet is traveling at a higher speed. Since the shooter is the main determinant in any weapons efficacy for self-defense, that is possibly the 9mm greatest strength. I keep ARX 118 grain ammo in my Glock 30 (10+1) which is 45ACP. AR-9s and other like 9mm platforms. Threat is neutralized. Not in California and some other states that stop you a 10 rounds mags. Both kills, but one kills instantly, the other allows for return fire from your attacker. I'm sticking with ole tried and true 1911. But it's like buying a vehicle, or picking out a new bass as far as there are pros and cons to each one. In dry practice, make it a habit to take a step to the left or right as the draw is occurring. Okay, this isn't very convincing one way or another, so I decided to go to both the Lucky Gunner website and Ballistics.101 for data on the calibers. The other point is shoot someone in the hand with a 9 he drop his gun shoot them with a 45 they will drop their hand. That's the amount of energy even cautious self-defense experts consider adequate for self-defense. One of the main reasons why military personnel and many LEOs made the switch to 9mm handguns was because of the deeper bullet penetration. I own, shoot and train with few firearms and calibres, including the Glock's 19, 26 and 30S. I own both calibers with two semi autos chambered for each. Well written article. It offers a larger magazine capacity given a similarly sized firearm. For compact or subcompact pistols I tend to favor 9mm due to recoil considerations in the smaller, lighter guns, and the magazine capacity limitations. FBI dropped 0.40 not because 9mm comes even close to it just affirmative action that's all it is. YouTube - Store data on what videos from YouTube the user has seen. This is repeated in Winchester's Power Max cartridges. I'm carrying a 45, and it was because of the lesser penetration that I decided on it. This backs up what I am saying about mass accounting for more in terms of penegation as velocity builds energy more than mass. There are many good rounds for the G19 for social work. While the 9's, well, they kept on fighting on theor feet. Not every confrontation is going to be 'range based'. I live in less free country, I still can carry my pistol, but EU wants to limit my magazines (blah blah blah). First of all, a higher muzzle velocity will mean a straighter trajectory down range. Some modern 45 jhp loads are creating wound channels on par with 12 ga foster slugs. For me, it's an SR1911, an old 4x4 Toyota with a stick, and a Pedulla my choices on all 3 are exactly the same i thought that was oddly coincidental since all 3 are not the most common choices. Another fact if you shoot an assailant far enough away that bullet drop comes into play, you will have problems in court. My Browning 1911-380 actually has a longer barrel than my Kimber 1911 Ultra CDP. My picks for rifles were 7.62 x 39 and 7.62 x 51. I also own a glock 19 as well. Remember, pride cometh before the fall . I'm positive it was a hydro shock because of the distinctive shape of the bullet. He also has his .40, but he finally switched to 9mm for carry after squealing about the price of ammo (I chuckled!). Having said that, here is something to consider. Then buy noise canceling ear muffs for about $20 because if you ever pop one off indoors it will hurt your ears. Two were head shots. The campground lot got sold. At Self-Defense ranges for a pistol, 50 fps will provide no positives or negatives. Best advice ever. Two ProPac set-ups on the buttstock & forestock allow for two 9RD & two 20RD extra mags onboard. I'll take the the bigger bullet. But the .45 Auto does not have the power you are claiming it has. Copyright Ammotogo.com 2023 All Rights Reserved. Another difference relates to global use. I know it would have been a lot more work but I was slightly disappointed that you did not include the Glock17 with the 4.6 inch barrel. Its essentially a 9mm magnum. Id learned that doing 33 separate factory loadings in four pistols in the same conditions was a tall order to fill. Some people carry a 124gr for summer and 147gr in cold climates where the BG might be wearing a Carhartt over sweaters, etc. Come to the UK. Analytical cookies are used to understand how visitors interact with the website. As the mass of the projectile does not change, appreciatively, what is reduced is the velocity of the projectile. However neither caliber is magical, as some may believe. My experience has led me to the same conclusion. There is such a variety of pistols in public use that we will not determine what guns are compatible with which loads. It is simulated human tissue that will show hydrostatic shock, penetration, and expansion . Perhaps they can be banned for possession while in public , I could stomach that. The truth isneither gun has a total advantage over the other one, and your personal preferences will play a lot in determining which handgun is for you. How well you can control the weapon is a HUGE factor. BUT, I have read that bear attacks are usually a big surprise to both the hiker and the bear, who have both been startled by each other's company. I am not a Glock guy by any means, but ammo is ammo and I always find tested results like these to be useful. Second, our judges demand, that each shot has to be beforethought = you can shoot perp once and then you have to evaluate, if he stoped his attack. You DO have to have the spray handy though. Practice, practice, practice. Thanks for the article, and for the mature comments. It kills everything else. The pistol has a dropleg tactical holster that holds 4 extra 9RD mags. Hum, didn't the 45 also get the benefit of those advancements? Any cal will work depending on shot placement. My personal favorite without a doubt is the 1911 design, even though it's heavy, expensive to shoot, and has a limited magazine. The energy at impact is greater than the 9mm. You can hit him multiple times and he can keep coming at you. 9mm Luger Results in fps Click here for a Muzzle Energy graph for the tests in this caliber. Capacity is not an issue because, I live in the DPRC (Democratic Peoples Republic of California). Or you could end up in prison. As most modern shooting systems use a two hannd grip, the grip circumference is negligible. The general formula for the kinetic energy is = where v is the velocity of the bullet m is the mass of the bullet.. Just ask the coroners - they can't tell the difference between someone shot by the two (they came definitely tell when a rifle is involved though). We'll only use the information provided according to our privacy policy. Hello. The masses want to know. I want harm for nobody, and especially me and mine, too. I don't believe that MEN can Kill the SOUL.It's GOD BREATHED Genesis 2:7. and since the "SOUL" is "GOD-BREATHED", then The SOUL is "IMMORTAL".! Of course, 10mm which has less mass than .45 ACP still has more energy than the other calibers because its a relatively fast bullet and it's heavy, but it's not as fast as .357 SIG but it penetrates significantly more. This isnt a pride of ownership statement either. A picture is worth a 1,000 wordsnewself-defense 9mm ammo opens up to create some nasty possible wound channels to stop attackers in their tracks. The average civilian self defense shooting ends on average between 2-4 rounds. And sure, you have to keep hitting which is much easier if they are close. The 9mm earned international attention following WWI, partly due to its relatively small dimensions that permitted the design of high capacity magazines. The purpose of gun ownership in our constitution is provide protection against tyranny. That would be 1,2,3,4,5 to stop the threat and the rest to miss with. The same advancements that the 9mm has received, so did the .45. The velocity of the bullet is a more important determinant of muzzle energy. Somewhere between the barrel lengths of 4.4 in which i think is redundant for a P.C.C. I witnessed a man in the early 80s with over a dozen 9mm rounds in him. I have both, I have practiced more with the 45 ACP. After some trial and error I did find a 9mm I was comfortable with and it concealed well. This is why K.E. Bear in mind that these numbers vary by manufacturer. Not to mention, the 9mm brings less recoil, making it an easier gun to handle especially for beginners. I load for accuracy which to me is far more important. My highest capacity 45 is my home defense weapon. Very informative article! I couldn't decide, so I bought (built actually)BOTH! Hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst case escenario. 1300+ FPS in my Glock 30. And I don't mean keeping your one pistol in a sock drawer. (I carry .40 Smith & Wesson or a .45 Auto pistol with concealed carry.) Haha. Go with comfort, shot group & confidence. This article has a ton of ballistic coefficient details, The Best Self Defense Ammo Ballistic Testing, .22 Long Rifle Remington Thunderbolt: 1,255, .30-06 Springfield Federal Power-Shok: 2,700, .308 Winchester Super-X Power Point: 2,820, .44-40 Winchester Super-X Soft Point: 1,190, .357 Magnum Hornady Critical Defense: 1,500. I love your Pro / Con's of each. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. I have them all. These cookies help provide information on metrics the number of visitors, bounce rate, traffic source, etc. If not then 9mm is an amazing option now. An extended double stack .45 mag will give you the larger magazine capacity. FMJ loads offer a rigid design for smooth penetration that doesn't deform on impact. Glocks are the best semi auto, there's no debate about it. ps I have always thought, why do "they" argue the 9mm hollowpoints advanced and are the same performance as 45 now. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. This is simply not true. Thats the amount of energy even cautious self-defense experts consider adequate for self-defense. When I'm in the woods I use .45 cast. It's just going to tear stuff up more in there. It's all about the ammo. For resources, I recommend Rory Miller as he dedicated a chapter in his book to the freeze, Marc MacYoung how to avoid violence in general, and Tim Larkin. Could I ask you why every special forces in the world including the Seals and SAS use 9mm MP5s mostly. Type your email address and well send Not me. To give you an idea of muzzle velocity statistics, here are a few listed velocities for specific products in some of the most popular cartridges: The G30 is my EDC, the G36 is in my car's glove compartment. Shotguns, rifles, pistolshe's been collecting them all for over a decade. Like I said I am a competition pistol shooter with mini trophies so I know what I am saying Hornady 100 Gr. Well I redid the math, and 230 gr @ 835fps is slightly less, but essentially the equivalent in energy to 124gr @ 1150fps. After all, it was the official sidearm of the United States Armed Forces during two World Wars and remained so up until the 1980s. But I think 9 millimeter Luger is a better carbine round over .45 Auto. My "bedroom" gun (the one I keep ready for home defense situation) is a 1911 Gov. 2. Wrong, you change the angle. Essentially, the 9mm will recoil on average 50% less making it easier for shooters to get their sights back on target for follow-up shots. So, if you consider 10 rounds of 45ACP sufficient, then, definitely, the choice would be the Glock 30. Over 100 years of testing and iteration have produced some very powerful .45 ACP ammo. IRead more . I hope this is of interest, Colin. 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