They're desperate to move this case forward but the truth is they've got nothing. It would take a full thread to note some things that have been released by law enforcement. I doubt that they were shot to death, though, given that these trails are frequented by pedestrians/hikers fairly regularly, and are adjacent to the main town. R96 I thought the SAME thing and then felt guilty for it! Unlike other old cases, they were not disposed of because Garnett had continued to appeal his conviction. Articulate in the use of terms of art through practice. On Reddit they speculate its Abby, but i thought she was supposed to have been laying down. Her net worth has been growing significantly in 2021-2022. In Part II, the sheriff stated he had been reported as a suspect at least 3 times and had been questioned. The identity of the male model used by the account in its profile pictures is known by investigators and they are not considered a person of interest in the case. Because I'm obsessed with this case, on the forums I read several people have had interactions with this profile and are turning info into the police. This case has really resonated with sleuth-wannabe fraus. I do hope she's ok as well. They have created a new team to look at this case off-site. She was nominated for a 1974 Joseph Jefferson Award for Best Actress in a Principal Role for her performance in "Separate Tables", at the Ivanhoe Theatre in Chicago, Illinois. I agree with the other poster too who says looking at their photos they just look like such nice girls, it really breaks your heart. In the drone pic it looked as if one body was posed with her shirt over her head and an object lying between her legs. Kids are also social media minded and the bridge and the view made for good photos. He used a gun. John Terhune/Journal & Courier A composite sketch one of just a couple pictures of the Delphi Murders suspect. It was bizarre when Leigh Kerr was answering FB questions and JDW popped in. The victim type is essential to their rape, kill fantasy. It is only when we mature into mid to late teens that the concept of making our own decisions develop. And if so, why are they withholding the name? If you google him he definitely fits for Bridge Guy. Some features on this site require a subscription. I would like to know why the Georgia Bureau of Investigation was called in to help with this. You're funny, r3, but the story really is horrifying. i was wondering about this as well. Also, it seems (if Leigh Kerr can be believed) that Abby was killed first and quickly, possibly bludgeoned. Though, playing devil's advocate, there could have been other reasons he wanted to pretend he lived in Las Vegas, given he had been arrested for other crimes. Please click here to get full access and no ads for $1.99 or less per month. I don't get armchair detectives who think they're Sherlock Holmes. Carter added that investigators believe the suspect was between 18 and 40 years old, but likely looks much younger than his age. Delphi Lawrence died on April 11, 2002 at the age of 70 years. sometimes it takes time, especially with a backwater PD. The process is always working, comparing tips received about the Delphi murders with hundreds of other cases and tips. The killer would have no tie to either girl except that they were the target of his boss. Small town or not, this is the 21st century. Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in London, United Kingdom. He does resemble Bridge Guy. I hope the fear of being caught is with him every day. I remember doing all kinds of dangerous stupid shit as a teenager. I don't get it. Recent long list of Tobe answering questions. Was Valentines Day a trigger for the Delphi murders? Did anyone see the picture of a man with a standing next to a vehicle that matched a witness report? That might also explain why they would keep some of the recordings from the public. The search for Libby and Abby resumed on Valentines Day morning, Feb. 14, 2017. The charges stem from a search of his Peru, Indiana home on February 25, 2017 - just 11 days after the bodies of Liberty and Abby were found. Police may soon be allowed to collect DNA samples from anyone accused not only convicted of a felony in the state. MYSTERY continues to surround the so-called Delphi Snapchat murders, nearly five years on from the killings of two teenage girls in Indiana who were found dead near a train track back in 2017. r466, r446 said "this weirdo" reset his phone the day of the murders. Later, the police reveal she also filmed the approach of their killer, as well as recorded him giving the chilling command, Guys.down the hill. There is more audio and video, but law enforcement has not released it. I mean if they weren't involved in murder and drug smuggling it shows that they pick and choose their cases. eta: The blood and tissue under Libby's fingernails might be her own. If they have someone who is 90% a good candidate for killer, I just have him "suicide.". During the conference, Carter said police believe the killer has local ties and shockingly claimed that the killer could even be sat in the room with them. Why was there no mention of two girls screaming loudly while being stabbed to death? Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenvy has been working the Delphi Murders case for four years. That tattoo made my blood freeze. I have no feelings of hatred towards him, because I dont know him, or what the circumstance are surrounding the case, he said on Friday. It is, she said, a truly interesting case.. I would never have believed then that it would still be going on 4 years later. Nations once lived in Indiana and faced charges in September 2017 for threatening people with a hatchet on a rural trail in Colorado. BG pretended to be a policeman when he saw Abby was there too and was pissed that Libby brought a friend. And while I understand there is need for some hold back, it's inexplicable they waited so long to release the video and audio. Nevertheless, it's a creepy coincidence in a very disturbing case. She graduated to lead roles but almost exclusively in "B"films. But posting inside a thread is okay, unless it's one of their delusional political stories. Anybody here know anything about that? Theyd have to have enough evidence to support a conviction if theyre going to charge him. Im watching now and r138 is right. Hes a young looking 42. Throughout the evening dozens of volunteers joined the search for the girls. Maybe there is a ring of guys involved. I remember there was a long thread (or more than one) about this when it happened. WebDelphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in Hampstead, London, England, UK. I was recently educated on this point by someone who knows more about True Crime than I do. "Directly to the killer, who may be in this room: We believe youre hiding in plain sight," Carter said. All the "recent" info is a bunch of conjecture from a supposed insider who has been all over the FB groups and Reddit. If interested, check out the podcast murder sheet which actually has a reading of the 130 page transcript. [quote] the tattoo dates to before the murders, there's a photo of him playing with a puppy in 2016 where he has the tat. Listen above to the History Uncovered podcast, episode 24: The Delphi Murders, also available on iTunes and Spotify. Maam? I've never understood why the girls didn't call 911. The audio clip and still image of the suspect made it especially stick in my mind. Police, including West Chester Detective Carl Durnell, and Chester County Detectives Frank Judge and L. Dyer Henley, had focused their attentions on Garnett soon after Delphis body was found in the creek on April 4, 1971, a month after her disappearance. That's the walk of a guy with bad knees or something. That is a great point about calling 911. She is from UK. It seems pretty in-line with their murders. Become a contributor - post when you want with no ads. Q. He was brought to the West Chester police station, while investigators went to his home to see if they could find any evidence there linking him to the crime. Maybe it's a cop and that's why they are being so reticent. Days after Libby and Abby were found dead, police officially named that man a person of interest in their murders. Or at the very least, they know because of how different you are since the murders," he said. Listen above to the History Uncovered podcast, episode 24: The Delphi Murders, also available on. We endeavor to be promptly responsive in correcting errors in the material published on digital platforms. I hope this revives momentum in the investigation and finally leads to an arrest. I thought she was too, OP, but in that image she is in a sitting position against a tree. Q. Delphi Lawrence died at the age of 70 years. He did not take answers during or after the press conference, however his remarks at the time seemed to indicate that cops believed they were close to zeroing in on the suspect. But many times, the mail links are just videos. Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in Hampstead, London, England as Delphi Cajetana Holzman. I think it's the newest suspect entry on the Wikipedia page. R203 I saw that too, BUT he isnt the only person who suspects this dude. My two cents: In Part I, after the initial sketch of the Bridge Man was first shared with the audience, the next image/picture/scene was a close up of the sheriff who looked strikingly similar to the sketched image of the suspect. HE WALKED SLOW ON THE BRIDGE!). He was sending me full essays about hebephilia until I blocked him. She died on April 11, 2002 in Northport, Long Island, New York, USA. Apparently an agent was home visiting family there when it happened and brought the FBI in. Because of social media, and the onslaught of armchair detectives, pictures and information of people who may look like the man in the photo circulated, causing death threats and harassment. However, in February, Leazenby told a local ABC affiliate that he feels like hes working on somewhat of a self-imposed deadline. HLN is airing a 2-night documentary based on the hit podcast, Feb 14 & 15. Crying into her potato salad over the stolen election. Some say that the recording contains much more footage of the killer but the parts with him in it are to graphic and disturbing to show and don't want to upset the families, and others say that what is out there is all they have off the killer but don't want the killer to know that's how little footage they have of him. There were also some texts leaked from one of the searchers who found the bodies where the searcher said the girls hadn't been assaulted, though the validity of the texts is uncertain. And hes also not lithe and skinny like a teen or young adult. No one really has a good idea of what he looks or sounds like. When they now began to answer his inquiries, he learned another reason why they had been so close-lipped. Law enforcement's relative radio silence over the probe has permitted a swell of speculation to mount online - something Holeman acknowledged. If they had met up with more people, he would have aborted. Discover Delphi Lawrence's Biography, Age, Height, Physical Stats, Dating/Affairs, Family and career updates. The way he says guys 20 seconds in. Q. It appears to be nothing but fantasy and speculation r398, nothing more. There is speculation that the old Bridge Guy was stalking the girls and trapped them by being behind them on the bridge, while the younger guy approached the girls from the other direction. I really hope so. I think that a new investigator was put on the case of the Delphi Murders in April 2020. I think that the escort who blew the whistle on the Lafayette's Men Club that shared girls and subjected them to horrible abuse + the Judge who had to resign could be part of the Delphi Murders. R320--- I had forgotten about that murder, thank you. I mean, not knowing the howmeans any awful thing you think of, if that makes sense. Stay away from places like this. R233 I dont think hes fat, either. Indiana State Police previously said that autopsies were carried out on the two girls but officials declined to disclose a cause or time of death for either girl, and refused to confirm whether DNA evidence was recovered from the scene. The girl on Facebook who posted that she knew the killer and the details and name of the killer has deleted the comments. If you do not like it, please feel free to creep off somewhere else. I actually rewatched the transition multiple times. There's video of Chadwell in 2016 with the tattoo already on his arm, r388. He suggests that Garnett, now, 60, who has for years claimed his innocence from his prison cell at the State Correctional Institution at Dallas, may have been wrongly convicted, and is hoping to win attention for his quest from the Pennsylvania Innocence Project, which handles appeals for such cases. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------. If they know who it is, that name would get out. I listened to it years ago and I just listened to it again. Q. Run a report showing which phone #'s were pinging in a specific area at a specific time and solved a bunch of cases like this. 1950. Im new to the case and Im sure anything I can think of someone has already asked.. Also, they havent really answered questions in the past, why now? God, he just looks too much like the sketch. The photos at the link found in R93's thread aren't useful at all, but the info about the two white Dodge Darts is pretty interesting. [anyone actually]. Delphi murders: Read the redacted probable cause affidavit in Richard Allen's arrest The affidavit does not indicate how Libby and Abby were killed Feb. 13, And yes, their deaths were violent. The disgraced Judge is now representing one of the Delphi meth heads whose gang could have killed the Delphi girls. And he does indeed look younger than he is, which explains the second sketch. Wonder if he's Leigh Kerr. Take a look at How would this case be handled from the beginning had there not been any audio/video of the person of interest? Kids should be allowed to have some adventures. [quote]Recording the recording, that it is brief and that it recorded the murders. Q. [quote]The only thing I can think of is that he was comparing body to body three unusual things done to/with each body. That little girl was only 9 years old. Also in the thread is a link to a compilation of his TikTok video posts and his voice sounds like the voice of the Bridge Guy. Her head was placed on a mantle, looking down at her body. Hello. There are about 6 guys who internet sleuths have considered as suspects who look like the police sketch. "The sketch isnt a photograph. Enough"? The tattoo could be an archetype in his head that is his "type." That suggests posing or staging the scene for later masturbatory purposes. Evidently the sheriff is going to answer submitted questions. Sgt. Anyone here have additional details on the sheriff or have more knowledge with this case? Somebody out there knows who this person is. R4777 Anyone who was a Snapchat friend could have seen Libby's feed that showed her photo of Abby on the bridge or other photos that Libby took at the trails. This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. Forgive me if someone already said this: if the girls knew the killer they would have said his name and it would have been recorded by her phone during the attack. Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in London, United !| Case Discussion & FACT CHECKS!). My first thought was he is posing over a grave, like The Moors murderers. There should be no evidentiary protection in releasing that unless LE is protecting their decisions to have many untrained personnel search, then stop the overnight search, and then refuse the dogs who were en-route from another city. I didnt see him again that night. Tip Information Contactse-Mail: abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.comTip Line: (844) 459-5786Indiana State Police: (800) 382-7537, DELPHI |Complete coverage | Delphi timeline. Its been months, this guy clearly isnt the killer. They also have had subsequent interviews with people who know this father and son team. Those poor, poor girls. We do that so when we get key evidence, only the killer or killers know the cause of death. I had not even thought about the fact the guy could have gained weight! Well, hmm. If the perpetrator is indeed in law enforcement, theres incentive for a major cover up. It has been well established that BG is the killer. I haven't followed this case extremely closely but now I do wonder if the police know it's this guy. But the Facebook is a girlso you believe its a male? In the thread, a poster has made several Photoshop images that show how the photo of Liberty used on the Missing posters matches up with a creepy tattoo on the guy's arm. LOL! So their method of hardly releasing any info to make the killer be caught by slipping up (or whatever) obviously didnt work. The victim was found a few 100 yards from the lot. It'd seem more sensible to me if it was an unusual cause of death, i.e. One of his victims was a female bird watcher on an obscure trail of a nature reserve leading to speculation that the killer knew the specific area and lived/worked nearby. You will lose all power. No one - especially not someone who the government believes may be in any way involved - should be questioned without legal representation. That cant be common. I posted at R413. R338-- What makes them doubt it's him, if you don't mind telling us a bit about it. Of course, they're not going to tell us everything they have uncovered in this investigation. . What happened to the girls doesn't have to have been "freaky" to upset people, just finding them partly clothed or nude and dead, possibly posed, would be bad enough. ^. They have not released any pictures of the Delphi murders scene. I check online every few months, hoping that sob has been caught. The True Crime Garage podcast just dropped a 3 part episode all focused on one person of Interest. (2:15ish). No stone should be left underturned! R476 There is a 29 yr old prosecutor (or maybe it was the investigator) that brought forth the fat pedo porn guy's case. Delphi Bridge murder victims Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, were found to have lost a large amount of blood when discovered dead close to an This young guy, our cousin, who called himself her protector was the prime suspect. Why have no other photos from Libbys phone been released to the public? [R460], I don't understand this either: "Why would the Delphi sheriff say that people will be shocked when they find out the identity of the killer." I have always thought that the girls were catfished. Its been four years and despite the evidence one of the victims was able to leave, the case has not been solved. R392 I've clearly said that the tattoo could be any of the 3 women - Libby, Linda Blair in The Exorcist or his mother. The Levi styled cut of his jeans and the Members Only aesthetic of the jacket suggest someone stuck in the styles of their youth. Local news reports in 2018 discuss the frustrating lack of answers in the Delphi murders case. It's hard to believe the DNA found under Libbys nails has yielded nothing. But Garnett also told the jury more. Browsing Reddit and found this mugshot of the suspect from a year before the murders and he looks a lot like one sketch of the murderer. If only. More than two years later, on April 22, 2019, Indiana State Police released a new piece of audio that is a slightly extended version of the initial clip and includes the word Guys followed by Down the Hill.. train, but he is clearly guilty of another crime and i really hope they have some forensic evidence to tie him to the girls murders. There was also an investigator who said there was physical evidence but it's "not what you think," which makes people believe it might be simply touch DNA (i.e. Wow! Its 65-70 feet off the river deck. I used to believe it was the former but as the years have gone on I think it's the latter. A witness came forward and described a car parked in a small lot near one of the trail exits for a few hours on the day of the murder. If they know who it is, that name would get out. In 1972, it was out of the ordinary in the county still largely rural and small town for a teenager like Delphi, a popular 16-year-old high school junior, to be the victim of a homicide. The audio isn't clear. Chadwell's brother says he's a monster and his step-father says he is capable of murder. Like Bundy fantasized and preyed on young thin college women with long brunette hair. R383, It was Libby's older sister, Kelsi, who agreed to it. Oh thank you R226, R227! The disclosure ended speculation that Lawrence, whose body was found by her He says the items were unusual. There have been texts on Reddit for years now. Looking at the guy that was just arrested seems like I am completely wrong. At least information followed into or brought to the attention by the investigators. I am not a good judge of age, he looks to be anywhere from late twenties to late thirties, early forties from that photo. To see all content on The Sun, please use the Site Map. Equally bizarre was Robert Ives using the term non-secular signatures but now I cant find where and when he said it or even if he did. In any case like that, there is always reason to have doubt, she said in an interview last week. Although the science of DNA was largely unknown in 1972, when Garnett was tried, there is the possibility that tests could be done now. Is this case the result of two stupid young girls who didn't get the FUCK out of dodge when they had the chance OR a bumbling homicide department? The day the girls went missing, there were dozens of people looking for them. Explaining that he had made himself a promise when he was about Delphis age to find out the circumstances surrounding her death, Lawrence waited until after March, when his 82-year-old mother, Doris Reeves Lawrence, passed away, to begin asking questions. 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